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Romans 9:6-13 - Corps - November 13,1979

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Publication Date: November 13, 1979

On Ephesians 4:25 where I want to begin tonight, or where we will begin tonight , the first part of what the Research Team gave me is the work that Walter Cummins published in our wonderful Way Magazine on "The Spoken Word." Also, as we cover Ephesians 4:28 tonight, I had all the information in front of me from another article that Walter Cummins has in the... has had in the Magazine. The first article on Ephesians 4:25 is entitled "The Spoken Word." The one on Ephesians 4:28 is "Workers for God." Both of these pieces of work by Walter are absolutely superb. And I believe that they should appear and will appear in our research journal GMIR whenever we begin publishing that. {GMIR Aramaic word meaning ' to perfect, accomplish , mature, complete, arithmetically to be divisible without any remainder.}

And I noticed again that some of the things that were stated are just so beautifully and logically presented, I'm truly thankful for, not only Walter, but the whole Research Department. I think our Biblical Research Department is just second to none. And it' s even going to be better by God' s mercy and grace next year and in years to come than it is at this time. And right now I do not believe that our Biblical Research Department needs to take a back seat for any academic institution or work in the world.

And I thought today, I have never... I've never thought of Walter Cummins in any other capacity than to be my assistant. I know Vince Finnegan, you know, on the books is my assistant. And that' s great. But I've never thought of Walter Cummins in any other capacity for so many years as always being my assistant. And I think he' s just the most wonderful person that any president could have as his assistant. And also to be chairmen of the Department of Greek, and then the coordinator of the Biblical research of The Way International. For any one man to have that position and that responsibility is an awesome reality and I'm real proud of Walter and real thankful for him. But I am also thankful for the rest of our wonderful men and women in the Research Department.

I would like for the Corps all over the country to go to the Magazine and find "The Spoken_Word," that's the title of it, dealing with Ephesians 4:25 and other scriptures, and before the next Corps meeting next week, you endeavor to master that great piece of work by Walter Cummins. It's just, you know, the spoken Word. Over fifty Greek words are used in the New Testament in connection with the faculties of utterance. Over fifty. And then he takes the most important ones and he lists them and it' s just. .. it' s just a piece of research work that you should really as a Corps master in your heart and in your life.

Ephesians 4:25 in the King James reads, Wherefore put away lyin g, speak every man truth with his neighbor: for we are members one of another.

The ' putting away' was interesting to me again because of the Greek word aniko, a-n-i-k-o.

And this word is ' the putting away,' this word ' put away,' aniko, is the same root word as in 4:22, where we use the word ' rest,' meaning ' to rest.' Is that right? Yep, that is right. I taught you that,

didn't I? Did I or didn't I? Doesn't look right to me. It is the same root. What chapter am I missing? Am I missing anything? I don't know. Right now I'm screwed up, ha ha. First time today. You check the word again and I'll do that, too and see what I'm missing here.

But a-n-i-k-o is the word for ' putting away from you. ' To put away. And it' s the same root as the word ' rest.' I don't know where the word appears, but it's got to be in there.

Now, that word ' speak,' every man speak. That word ' speak ' is from the Greek word

laleo, l-a-l-e-long-o. And that' s where Walter' s article on "The Spoken Word"_c omes in because that is.. .he uses that word laleo in here, which I teach in Corinthians when I teach the Foundational Class. And he says the word is employed 24 times in I Corinthians chapter 14. I had forgotten that.

This word is truly significant. I couldn' t quite understand it Research Department, what  you said on page 26B 16, where you defined it ' to make vocal utterance,' ' to babble,' 'to talk,'  'to  exercise the faculty of speech without reference to the words spoken.' I just wondered if there might not be another word that could be substituted or utilized at this point. I know that Zachariah 8:16 is the quotation that is used here, or spoken of. And that Zachariah 8:16 adds force to what is said by using a quote, a quotation. That' s why my question to the Research Department is, How can it be without reference to what is spoken if it is truth plus the quotation of the Word of God that's given. It doesn't quite fit for me.

'With his neighbor' has to be a believing neighbor. This 'speak truth with his neighbor' is a figure of speech gnome, g-n-o-m-e, which simply is a citation. And that' s a citation from Zachariah 8:16.

There are a series of figures of speech, Corps, in chapter four which just put the 00mph, the highlight, to the particular things that are set whereby you put off the old man. This phrase here 'speak every man truth with his neighbor'  is one of them. The other one appears in verse 26, 'be  angry and sin not.' ' Steal no more' is another one. 'Corrupt communication' is the fourth one.  'Grieve not the  holy spirit' is the fifth one. ' All bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, evil speaking' is  the sixth. And  then  ' be kind' and so forth, is the seventh.

You see, the last phrase in that verse, in King James, For we' re members one of what? [Another] And it' s relative to the neighbor. Now you just look at that. Wherefore put away  lying, speak  every  man truth with his what? [Neighbor] For we are members  one of  another.  That  doesn't  mean just  a neighbor who lives next door, but it has to be a believing neighbor because  we are members  one of what? [Another]. You could not be a member ' one of another' ifhe  was an  unbeliever.  That's how I know this is going to  work. This tells me that the neighbor  is  a  believer.  And  this  ' we' re members one of another' continues the imagery of the Body of Christ.

The literal  according  to  usage of this verse is as follows:   Wherefore  put away the  lie... and I believe in my heart, before I go on with the literal that until man is born again, it's all a lie anyways. And that' s why I believe that this translation will fit in the light of that knowledge. Because when  a man is not born again, his whole  life is just a  lie. Now you're  born again,  and that ' s  why  I think the text states it ' wherefore put away the lie,' the life you' ve been living , the screwed up life you have lived outside of God. It' s been just a life of a lie. It' s not truth. It' s just the opposite of truth and that's my reason for translating it this way... Wherefore put away the lie.

You've got to go with that translation. You have no other text to go by both from Aramaic and Greek it's 'lie.' Not 'lying.' If the Research Department has anything to share in the light of that, I'd be blessed to hear, but you' ve heard my reasons for translating it, Research Department, this way.

Now since they're born again, their whole life is changed, so the life of lying, and living a lie, and being a lie, and being false, is to be put away.

And every man... this is the translation ... and everyone, everyone. The word ' man' you could use because it's an inclusive noun, but I prefer to use the word ' one.'

Wherefore put away the lie and everyone speak the truth with his neighbor for we are members one of another. That is literal according to usage.

Now for the expanded according to understanding. It's not bad. Because of this... What we coughing for? Everybody sick?...Because of this... and the reason I went in the expanded along this line is because verse 24 last week told us that we are created by God in righteousness and in true purity, through holiness. Twenty four.

That's why 25, Wherefore ... 'wherefore' can be translated 'because of this.' Because of this what? Being created in righteousness and truly pure. See it's an inside job.

Because of this being created in righteousness and truly pure by the grace and the love of

God.. .Because of this being created in righteousness and truly pure, you put away, completely lay to rest the lie that you have been and were living and each one of you speak the truth using a quotation from the Word with his believing neighbor for we are members one of another in the Body of the Church.

Robinson {Edward} said, he translated, 'speak every man truth with his neighbor' and he said it's from Zachariah 8:16 which adds force to what is said by using a quote. That's why I translated that. I think that' s great. It adds force to what is said. If you're speaking to someone, it adds force to what you say by using a quote, a quotation from God's Word. In other words, ' you share the Word with them.' That' s why I went with that translation. I want to give it to you again in this sense.

Speak the truth using a quotation from the Word, which means 'share the Word.' Quote the Word to them. Tell them what the Word says, with his believing neighbor. Why? For we are members one of another in the Body of the Church. This verse is just mind blowing.

Here, you have a born-again believer neighbor who needs to grow up a little more. So what do you do? Each one speak the truth to that neighbor, that believer, using the Word, quoting the Word because we' re members one of another in the Body of the Church. It's a real positive thing to do.

Verse 26 in King James reads, Be angry.. .ha ha... we like that one, don't we. Be ye angry and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath.

Here is a verse of Scripture that' s very, very difficult for most people. And it' s not too easy for us either. But I think we are able to share the truth of the greatness of this and it's been burning in my heart for a long time to do this with our people.

Everybody has problems with ' how can you be angry and not sin?' You know, how can raise hell with something and not be sinful in doing it? Teed off and not be sinful. And how can you go... and what does it mean 'don't let the sun go down upon your wrath?' See.

In the context, here, verses 26 and 27 deal with your believing neighbor, specifically. Then the Greek word for ' anger' which is from the root orge, o-r-g-long-e means 'anger together with the desire of revenge .' That' s bad. That' s a heavy. The Hebrew word means ' to kill, and all the tumults of passion that terminate in killing.' So it's a real heavy word when it said ' be angry.'

And the way I believe it's used in God' s Word, ' be ye angry' means ' it's a long time anger with your believing neighbor until a change has ensued.' The desire to... of revenge is a change. And I, knowing the Word in the light of the new birth, it's where a change finally comes about. Until that time, you just, long-term, you just stay put witnessing the Word, sharing the Word. You do not dislike the believing neighbor; you simply dislike that he is not fully accepting the Word and walking on it. So it' s a long-term anger until a change has ensued. You just stay faithful.

I don't know what else to do with those words. It is a righteous anger. Yet it is a righteous anger without sin.

Among the scholars, there is a disagreement on these words. Well, I don't know about my being a scholar; that I don' t anything about being about. But it's simple to me because righteous anger is commanded by God's Word when it says ' be ye angry.' Well, the scholars can fight about it. I don' t care. It' s a command. Not just permitted to get teed once in a while when somebody' s off of God' s Word, a believer is off of God's Word. You' re always teed off righteously at any believer, born-again believer, who is off of God' s Word. And for those of us in the Way Ministry, it' s been a lifetime.

Get into it with them on... Oh what subject do you want to talk about? Baptism? Food? One God? See. All that stuff.

The Aramaic is accurate in the words ' and sin not.' It literally translates ' and you will not sin.' Again, this ' be angry and sin not' is that figure gnome. Quotation. A citation from the Old Testament. It' s from Psalm 4:4. But in King James, Psalm 4:4, it's translated 'stand in awe.' The real sense of the Hebrew is ' one of admonition;' sin not. Where we' re admonished to not sin. Sin not.

' Let not the sun go down on your wrath. ' Ha ha. That again is beautiful. People went to bed when the sun went down, when it got dark. That's when they went to bed. So what that simply is saying, ha ha, ' don't go to bed teed off.' Don' t let the sun go down on your wrath. In other words, go to bed; don' t go to bed mad. ' When you go to bed' is what it means. Let not the sun go down when you go to bed. And they went to bed when the sun went down. When it got dark, they went to bed, see.

' Upon your wrath.' And the word ' wrath' here is basically ' irritation.' Ha ha. Previously when I taught Ephesians, I made mention of this fact, ' don' t let righteous anger shake you, wondering if it was right on. When you go to bed, go to sleep.'

Now, this is what we have done with it in the literal, ha ha, according to usage. I got more papers up here than Carter has liver pills, or something. Then, I can' t find my... whatever it is I take off of it.

Okay, verse 26. You be righteously angry.. .this is literal according to usage.. .and you will not be sinning. Don't go to bed even with a momentary irritation, ha ha.

I don't think you get nearly as much fun out of this as I do. It's neat. It's absolutely scrumptious, see. At the opening, is that heavy word, remember? Anger. So it's a real heavy time. So what he is saying, in the heavy time, when your standing on God' s Word  and sharing that with the  believing  neighbor, you' re righteously angry... you're not sinning. And  you don't  even go to  bed with a momentary irritation. In other Words, when you go to bed, thank God the day is over. Say your last prayer and start snoring.

Boy, that would save a lot of sleeping pills, wouldn' t it? Practicing that principle. Boy, oh boy, what a tremendous Word. And hardly anybody understands verse 26. They argue about it, but they don' t get the understanding.

Now this is the expanded one according to understanding, I hope. And again, I would like to just lay some things before the Corps, and especially before the Research Department. I translated the first part of verse 26, You always stay angry with an all-out desire to have them to change which anger will not be sin on your part.

Then I have another translation of that first part of it: You be righteously angry, 'teed off' with sin... 'Teed off' I put in quotes. But don't  you sin  by acting  ' holier than thou'  vaunting  yourself  by acting so righteously like you never sin.

I do not know which one of those two the Research Department feels would be the better. The last part of the phrase that I translated which would go with both of these that I have given you here on the expanded one for understanding. This, the last part, goes with that first one and with the second ... also.. .even if it is only a momentary irritation.  When you go to  bed, go to sleep. That's what I did with it.

Now, verse 27. King James says, Neither (or neither) give place to the Devil. The word 'place' is simply a portion, a part. No believer will give full place to the Devil, but he may be giving a part, a portion. He' ll mark off a spot, ' this is Devil' s permission over here, over here, no permission, you know. And you really give the Devil a portion or a spot if you stew about it after you go to bed and you toss and you tum and can' t sleep.

This word 'the Devil,' ' the Devil' in the Aramaic is a very interesting and exciting Word to me and it blesses my heart. It' s a compound word where the first part means ' to eat' or ' to devour.' The latter

' to slander' or ' to accuse. '  So when I got to translating  this, literally according  to usage, verse 27 reads: Do not give any portion or space or an opportunity to the Devil. So I used those three words synonymously: portion, space, opportunity. Do not give any portion or space or an opportunity to the Devil.

The expanded according to understanding: And you will not give a toehold, an opportunity or an occasion for the Devil to eat you. Ha ha. I get more fun than you ever will out of working this stuff, huh.

You see, and to me, that communicates to my understanding. John 10:10. The thief cometh not but for to what? [Steal, kill, and destroy] Right. To eat you out. To beat you. And that's why that Aramaic word, on the word ' Devil' really thrilled me.

And that ' s why I put it into the expanded translation: And you will not give a ' toehold.' Now, at L.E.A.D., you know how important it is to get a what? [Toehold] Ha ha. And when you' re really climbing in, you' re blessed for a toehold. How thankful you are when you get a foothold. Now the adversary can never get a foothold in a believer' s life until he first has a toehold. That's why I translated it that way.

Do not give... and you will not give a toehold ... shave all the rocks off... an opportunity or an occasion for the Devil to eat you. And that' s exactly what he likes to do to believers.

Now we go to verse 28. King James says, Let him that stole steal not more: but rather let him labor, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. And here again, is another great work that I believe should be in our research journal GMIR, Walter' s work on " Workers for God."

It' s just tremendous where he... you know... he just goes into God' s men are called many things in the Word. They' re called: fellow workers, ministers, or servants, slaves, fellow slaves, partners, messengers, soldiers, fellow soldiers, athletes, fellow athletes, stewards, ambassadors, witnesses, all of those. And he covers them so beautifully. And I love very much how he covered the word ' slave,' because it' s a much stronger word than to be a minister, or to be a servant. It is to be one who is branded, marked out, sold out. And baby, from that day on, there are no ifs, and' s, or but' s. You never budge on it. You are branded. Most believers are never branded. They may be servants, they may be ministers, but they are not branded. When you' re branded, you stay faithful. You do not budge. You do not change. You stay put. If all hell breaks loose, you still live the believing Word.

I think the prophet once said, If I was in the midst of hell, God I know you' d be there. (Psalm 139:8) He' d be there. That' s the doulos. That, of course, is just a tremendous piece of work.

And the other great part that I think... and this is a second piece that I want the Corps to master before next Wednesday night, " Workers for God," the work on ' witness.' You see, it's the same word basically that's translated ' martyr,' see. And we got a lot of those canonized. That's not at all what a witness is. A witness is a living example, not a dead one. The word 'martyr' simply means that you lay down your life in witnessing. And boy, when you put the doulos together with ' witness,' then you' ve got power for abundant living. It's just a fantastic work by Walter and I' m real grateful that it was published. Because once it' s in print, people can take a look at it if they want to.

I'd like a cup of coffee, please.

Now, we are in verse 28. The Aramaic translation is ' and he who was stealing.' I understand it from the English, ' let him that stole,' past tense. The Aramaic is real simple, real strong. ' And he, the one who is born again, who was, past tense, stealing.'

Thank you.

His whole life was one of those before he was born again.

Whenever you bring a cup of coffee to a right-hand man, you put the handle to the right. When you serve a cup of coffee to a left-hand man, you put it on the left-hand side and put the handle to the left. Corps principle number seven or something, ha ha. Mrs. Wierwille would say, Well, be thankful you even get a cup of coffee. [Laughter] Ah, you're wonderful.

See, ' let him who stole, steal no more.' 'Stole and steal,' that' s a figure of speech and is polyptoton p-o-l-y-p-t-o-t-o-n. It' s a repetition of the same root word in different parts of speech or reflections. But, that's not earth shaking right now in my heart.

You see, in some Eastern culture, it was not considered a sin or a shame to steal because that's the way they lived, the only way they lived. Somebody told me... or not only told me, one of our people, but it was in a national magazine, that the basic culture of Russia today is to steal. And in some respects I can understand this. If you don't have anything and you're starving to death and there' s a loaf of bread you can get a hold of... steal the dam thing. I understand that.

So this verse is really sharp, really sharp. Let him who stole, even though that man previously considered it the way to live and there was no shame in it, no sin in it. He said, Well, let that fellow who stole, steal no more. Something has happened on the inside of that man. Something that happened, where He is able to meet all of our need according to His riches in glory. Christ in you, the hope of glory. More than conquerors.

A record in the Old Testament, I forget where it is, but it's in there, that it' s never, you never need to borrow or steal bread or... what is that in the Old Testament? Begging bread. One person stand and tell me. {Psalm 37:25, I have been young and now am old; yet have I seen the righteous forsaken, nor His seed begging bread.} Psalm 27:25 who? {Psalm 37:25} 37:25. All the years, he's never seen the righteous to have to do what? {Beg bread} Beg bread.

First of all, I wish the Christian world could hear this. Secondly, I wish our government in the United States could understand it. The Word says, If you don't work, you don' t eat. A lot of that stuff. Well, what we've been doing is stealing from the people who are willing to work to give to the people who don' t want to work. That's a bunch of crap. That's stealing. That's why this verse is so hot in my soul tonight. Let him who stole, quit stealing, dang it. See.

Many years ago I was really knocked for a loop along some of this line in India, from Dr. Williams. I think he loved India maybe like I love the United States, I don' t know. Because only a man knows how much he loves his own country, I guess.

But... as we were traveling together, he said to me, Dr. Wierwille, I hear you have whores in the United States.

You know, I never had given it a thought. I just took it for granted. [Laughter] And I said, yeah. He said, Why does a rich country like the United States have whores?

And I said, I don't know.

And he said, I can't understand it. Cannot your women make enough money to live? Yeah, but they figure that' s cheaper and more pleasurable or something, I don' t know. And he said, Well, I think it's sinful that the United States has whores.

And I said, What do you mean?

And he said to me, why, I can understand India. He said we don' t enough food, we don' t have enough of anything hardly for a lot of people. And we have whores because that' s the only way they can continue to live physically.

And I thought to myself, well boy, that' s slapping me in the face good. And I took it as a wonderful lesson. There is no excuse in the United States for any women being a whore because she doesn' t need to get screwed and paid for it in order to get money so she can live. There's plenty of work available and if there isn' t she ought to get born again, then there' s a guarantee of work. ..other work, available. I tell you, when you' re honest, some of these men in other countries have some real logic behind their thinking. How would you have liked to have handled that? I just simply admitted, Well, I think we' re wrong in the United States. But I said, I think you' re wrong in India, too, because no reason to have whores here if you get them born again.

So I don' t know. But this verse today as I worked the final working on this verse 28 is when my heart really went back and burned with that truth that Dr. Williams had stated. Because in many Eastern cultures, it was not considered as sin or as shame to steal, if it was a matter of livelihood. You sometimes wonder who will live in the greatest condemnation before God and justice and judgment when the time comes.

For in most of what are called poor countries even, there is sufficient money, food, and other things for the people to live if those in positions of authority were not so selfish and egotistical, and want it for themselves , and let the rest of the world die... or a country die.

The word ' labor' in verse 28 is the word which literally means ' hard work resulting in fatigue.' That's how I felt coming from the woods last night. And I didn' t do anything. It was just hard work being there with the rest of you. Today I got so tired of being with some, I came home. Ah, you' re wonderful.

' Working with his hands' is an Eastern cultural type of thing. Today in our culture, you could have it, you know, the truth is working with your mind or working with your hand, whatever you' re working at. But in Eastern culture, every son was to be trained to work with his hands, even if he was the son of a king. Had to learn a trade, a profession of business.

Jesus Christ was a saddle maker. He made them to ride, I guess, what do you want? Tennessee Walkers , or? See. I think not only did he do that, Paul did it, too, you know. Someday I'm going to find a...or Walter, or some of those, are going to find me a manuscript to prove it. .. and a wonderful carpenter by trade. Many times doing carpentry work and being a saddle maker were sort of in the same household, because building carpentry and having saddles to use for their business and carrying on, were very, very closely aligned. Well, I won' t argue the point, but I wish we' d keep looking.

II Thessalonians.. .Do your hands ever get so dry you can hardly hold anything? Golly, mine are so dry tonight, I wonder why? II Thessalonians, chapter 3:10... this we commanded you that if any would not work, neither should he what? [Eat] Right. Even unemployment is no excuse for stealing. He just doesn' t eat. Goes and gets work. Boy, when I first saw the greatness of these principles many years ago, and then of course, I uniquely by God' s grace, inculcated that into our W.O.W. program and very dynamically in the Corps leadership.

ROMANS 9:6-13
November 13, 1979
Tonight I want to cover Romans 9:6-13. Again, some very difficult verses, but I think in the
light of the principles we know on how the Word works and how not one verse of scripture
can contradict another verse when it talks about an identical situation. I believe we’re
going to be able to work our way through these verses with a great amount of light and
blessing to all of you.
This section in Romans 9:6-13 really deals with Israel’s failure. In Verses 1-5, God shows
Paul’s great heart, a man’s love for his kinsmen, his relatives, his flesh and blood people.
Paul’s love is so great because of the privilege that was extended to his kinsmen. I’m sure
many of you in the Corps can sympathize and identify with that because you have
kinsmen, flesh and blood, brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers, uncles and aunts, etc.
whom you would just love to see because of the great privilege it is to know the accuracy
of God and his Word. You would just love to see them into the fellowship of the greatness
of that. That’s what Verse 1 and 5 really is all about. Yet, he indicates in both verses, that
if his relatives, his nearest relatives, if they defect or if they fail to be true believers in the
greatness of the integrity of God’s Word and its revelation, even though Paul is deeply
hurt, scared by their action, he has to carry on. That’s the same truth that communicates to
your life and to mine.
Matthew 10:36 and 37
Matthew 12:46-50
That’s typically exemplified in the truth of Romans 9:1-5 where God has shown to Paul’s
heart how a man’s love for his kinsmen is so tremendous because of the privilege the
kinsmen have. Yet, if they defect or they indicate failure in the true believing of God’s
Word, even though you’re deeply hurt, you must carry on.
Romans 9:6
We get to Israel’s failure. In the King James, you do no see this, but in all the Greek texts
there is the word “but” which opens Verse 6.
Romans 9:6-13
I have worked Verses 6 and 7 in a literal translation for you.
But – the first word; Even though a man is deeply hurt by his kinsmen not believing, in
contrast to that, but if the kinsmen do not believe the logos, the Word of God has not
failed. That is literally what Verse 6 says. If nobody believes, the Word of God still has not
failed. It isn’t the Word of God that fails. It’s men’s believing that fails, not the Word. But
the Word of God has not failed.
For they were not all Israel which are of Israel’, neither are they all Israel because they are
of the seed of Abraham. All are children, (bloodline, but not all believers) yet in Isaac shall
thy seed be called.
That’s Romans 9:6 and 7
But the logos. Word of God, has not failed, for they were not all Israel which are of Israel,
neither are they all Israel because they are of the seed of Abraham. All are children
(bloodline, but not all believers) yet in Isaac shall thy seed be called. “Seed be called”
literally is “believing be established” – Yet in Isaac shall thy believing be established.
The true Israel is not blood, genetically speaking. The true Israel is the believer, a remnant,
children of promise, reckoned seed, to the preserving of the true seed, the believers, in an
unbroken line according to the election of truth, which is God’s sovereign choice which is
guaranteed because of His foreknowledge.
In this section of Romans 9:6-13, you’ve had so much teaching about the arbitrary will of
God, that God picks one person and sends him to heaven, and picks another person and
sends him to hell and that this is foreordained that one goes to heaven, and one goes to
hell. That’s about the most devilish doctrine that’s ever been promulgated by Calvin and
his cohorts upon Christianity.
There’s a philosophy called stoicism. Stoicism is just the opposite of epicurean ism. The
epicureans had as their philosophy, eat, drink and be merry. Have a great time, live it up.
The stoics on the other hand who lived at the same time, taught that you deny all bodily
desires because everything is foreordained anyway, so just be totally negative all the time.
These philosophies and wrong teaching, dividing of God’s Word, issued in what is
theologically known as fatalism. Fatalism simply means you can’t do anything about it
anyway. If you’re going to get killed in a motorcycle accident, you’ll get killed. If you’re
going to get killed falling off a curve, you’re going to get killed. You can’t do anything
about it. It’s all established. That is fatalism. That again, is a lie from the pit of hell
because then God would be the author of sin, as well as the author of death.
In John Chapter 1, and tonight is the one night I want you to learn it so you’ve got it for the
rest of your life so you understand it and that you can teach it. The greatness of election by
grace which is God’s sovereign choice, but it’s guaranteed because of God’s
foreknowledge. Foreknowledge, and understanding election, predestination, preordination,
all of those things, is very simple. If I would foreknow that all of you would have been
here tonight in certain seats, I could have prophesied this afternoon and I could have said
that David Jackson will be seated in the front row in the first seat on my right. Because of
one thing, foreknowledge. God is omniscient, meaning all wise, that’s why God has
foreknowledge. I am not all wise, therefore, I do not have foreknowledge. But if I had all
that foreknowledge, I could have foretold, predestinated, foreordained, and said you people
will be in such and such seats. That is what’s involved, among other things, in these verses
6 to 13.
I want to take you into John 1 and show you some of these, and others.
John 1:45-48
How did Jesus Christ know? Foreknowledge, by revelation though. Revelation knowledge
which is possible upon occasion, but that does not make you God. That simply is
revelation. And they have confused revelation with foreknowledge.
Mark 5:34
The true seed of Israel are the believers in an unbroken line according to the election of
grace which is God’s sovereign choice guaranteed because of God’s foreknowledge.
Here’s a woman; she didn’t look like very much. Had massive problems. Reached out and
touched the hem of his garment and he reciprocated by saying “daughter.” That means that
she was a believer.
Luke 13:16
This woman was a daughter, a believer of Abraham. She’s in the believer’s line. So many,
many times through the Word of God, the most unlikely people sense knowledge wise are
the true believers. The woman with the issue of blood. Here’s a woman that was bowed
together. The bloodline genetically is not necessary. It is believing that is necessary. A
daughter of Abraham. Women were set free in Christ. When you lose the truth of the
greatness of the Word of God and the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ in all of its greatness,
women always lose their freedom. You always go to slavery. No country has ever given
women freedom without there being present in that country a knowledge of the true God
and His son Jesus Christ. If they do not believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God, then
women are in slavery in that country.
But when the truth of God’s Word is known, women are capable, possible, like men, to be
of the seed. Not genetically, but of the believing of Abraham and be daughters of
Abraham. It isn’t blood, it’s believing. John teaches this so that you can’t miss it.
John 8:37-44
Genetically, were they of Abraham? Yes, but spiritually they were of the Devil. You
couldn’t have it written any plainer. So it doesn’t make any difference what your family
genetics are. The difference is in believing.
Romans 4:1-3
Romans 4:9-11
The father of believers. That’s why the word “seed,” many times, means believer because
the unbelievers of the seed of the Devil, they have a father.
Romans 4:12-14
Romans 9:6
The Word of God had not failed. Had it been of bloodline, it would have failed. But being
of believing, it has never failed, because there’s always been a remnant.
Romans 4:16, 20, 21, 24, 25
Romans 3:28 and 29
Romans 2:28 and 29
Romans 9:7
Romans 9:8
The word of promise equals the Word of God, for the promise requires the believing of the
Word. God said to Abraham, you’re going to have a son. That’s the promise. The promise
requires the believing of the Word. In Isaac shall thy seed be called. In Isaac a seed was
reckoned. Like in Abraham, believing reckoned. In Isaac, that seed was reckoned. In
Sarah, a believing child was promised. In Rebecca, a believing nation was promised.
The reason I’m building this for you, is because there is much more in Romans 9:6-13 than
just predestination or foreknowledge. You will only understand Romans 9:6-13 if you
understand the calling in Isaac, Jacob, the nations, that a believer child is promised, that a
believer nation is promised.
Numbers 20:14-18, 20
This was Esau, the progeny that was to be the lesser, but at this time was the greater power.
Out of Rebecca a believer nation was promised, but Rebecca had two children, Esau and
what? And the elder, Esau, who was really the greater, was to be the lesser. But I’ve shown
you from Numbers that he, at the time of Israel’s coming out of Egypt, he was the greater.
But God had spoken before the birth of Esau and Jacob, saying what we’re going to deal
with in II Samuel.
II Samuel 8:14
When Moses came out of Egypt’ he was not the greater one. Edom was still the greater
one. But under David, David went in and he put garrisons in Edom.
Romans 9:9, 10, 12
The elder is Esau, the younger is greater. The younger is lesser rather. Esau is the elder,
Jacob the younger. Yet, the Word says that the elder is going to serve the younger. But
when Israel under Moses came out from Egypt, was that true? No. Never became true until
David. And yet it had been spoken by God, prophets, even before the birth of Jacob and
Esau.
Romans 9:13
Romans 9:8
Children of the flesh, children of the senses, children of unbelievers. These are not the
children of god, not children of His spirit, not children of believing, not children of the
promise, because the children of the promise are counted for the seed. The seed of the
believers, children who believe, are counted the believers. The children of the promise are
counted for the seed. Children who believe are counted the believers.
Romans 4:3
That’s the seed.
James 2:23
The believers, the seed, the promise, those are all people who believed, not because of
bloodline, but they were born of the bloodline, but it wasn’t the bloodline. It was their
believing. That’s why God knew Esau would not do what? But He knew Jacob would do
what? In His foreknowledge.
John 8:56
He didn’t see it because it had come to pass already, but he believed unto it. Abraham was
of the seed of believing.
Isaac represented the nation of believing. Isaac was the seed reckoned. Sara had that
believing child promised. Rebecca had that believing nation premised, that in that nation
would be the believers. Jesus said that Abraham rejoiced to see his day, the first coming of
the Lord Jesus Christ. And it says he saw. How did he see? By believing. And he was
tickled to death, glad. Tremendous truth, people.
There can never be any question about the Word of God having failed, or that God is a
God of death or destruction. There’s no way you can do it if you want to be honest.
I Corinthians 10:3 and 4
Moses saw Christ. The rock was Christ. They were believers. They saw his day and
believed. Sara was ninety, she believed.
Romans 9:10, 12
Romans 9:13
It is simply the Old Testament way of saying, Jacob I loved because I foresaw, foreknew
that he would believe. But Esau I did not like because I foresaw what he would do to that
believer nation, and God saw this, knew this, because of God’s foreknowledge.
In your Young’s Analytical Concordance, on page 87 at the back where they have all the
Greek words that appear in the Kings James and the translation in English, this word
proginōskō is translated “foreknow,” twice; “foreordained” once; “know,” once; “know
before,” once. Then proginōsis is translated “foreknowledge,” twice. So you have this
word proginōskō or proginōsis, same word, only one verb and the other a noun, translated
foreknow, foreordained, to know, know before, and foreknowledge.
It’s also interesting that there’s a take-off of these words, which is the word progonos, and
that’s translated “forefathers,” once; and “parents,” twice. Literally, progenetic. That’s neat
because if your wife is going to have a baby, you know before the baby comes that she’s
going to have one, proginōsis. Foreknowledge.
I want to handle all these usages with you from the Word tonight so there will never be
another question in your mind about the meaning in God’s Word when it talks about
election of grace, or God’s sovereign choice, or God’s predestination. That there never
again will be another thought in your mind or question regarding it, but that you’ll just be
fully persuaded and that you’ll know.
Romans 8:29
“foreknow” – proginōskō
Romans 11:2
“foreknew” – proginōskō
Acts 2:23
“foreknowledge”
In God’s foreknowledge He knew what they would do to the Lord Jesus Christ.
I Peter 1:2
“foreknowledge”
I Peter 1:18 and 19
I Peter 1:20
“foreordained” – proginōskō
God in His foreknowledge knew. That’s why Jesus Christ was the lamb without blemish
and without spot.
II Peter 3:17
“know before” – proginōskō
Acts 26:5
“knew” – proginōskō
So when you put all these verses together, and that’s all there is in the whole Bible, you
can see that predestination, foreordination, election, is used in the essence of God’s
foreknowledge. He foreknew Jacob and Esau. He foreknew Abraham and Isaac. He
foreknew you. That’s why He could call us even before the foundation of the world
because He knew that when you would hear the Word, you would believe. And that’s why
He predestinated.
Romans 8:30 and 31
God knew in His foreknowledge that you would believe.
That’s why as a nation Jacob have I loved, but Esau, Edom, all those offspring, have I
disliked as a nation because they would not believe.
That, I believe, are those great verses of Romans 9:6-13.