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Romans 8:5-11 - Corps - September 18,1979

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Publication Date: September 18, 1979

On Ephesians 4:25 where I want to begin tonight, or where we will begin tonight , the first part of what the Research Team gave me is the work that Walter Cummins published in our wonderful Way Magazine on "The Spoken Word." Also, as we cover Ephesians 4:28 tonight, I had all the information in front of me from another article that Walter Cummins has in the... has had in the Magazine. The first article on Ephesians 4:25 is entitled "The Spoken Word." The one on Ephesians 4:28 is "Workers for God." Both of these pieces of work by Walter are absolutely superb. And I believe that they should appear and will appear in our research journal GMIR whenever we begin publishing that. {GMIR Aramaic word meaning ' to perfect, accomplish , mature, complete, arithmetically to be divisible without any remainder.}

And I noticed again that some of the things that were stated are just so beautifully and logically presented, I'm truly thankful for, not only Walter, but the whole Research Department. I think our Biblical Research Department is just second to none. And it' s even going to be better by God' s mercy and grace next year and in years to come than it is at this time. And right now I do not believe that our Biblical Research Department needs to take a back seat for any academic institution or work in the world.

And I thought today, I have never... I've never thought of Walter Cummins in any other capacity than to be my assistant. I know Vince Finnegan, you know, on the books is my assistant. And that' s great. But I've never thought of Walter Cummins in any other capacity for so many years as always being my assistant. And I think he' s just the most wonderful person that any president could have as his assistant. And also to be chairmen of the Department of Greek, and then the coordinator of the Biblical research of The Way International. For any one man to have that position and that responsibility is an awesome reality and I'm real proud of Walter and real thankful for him. But I am also thankful for the rest of our wonderful men and women in the Research Department.

I would like for the Corps all over the country to go to the Magazine and find "The Spoken_Word," that's the title of it, dealing with Ephesians 4:25 and other scriptures, and before the next Corps meeting next week, you endeavor to master that great piece of work by Walter Cummins. It's just, you know, the spoken Word. Over fifty Greek words are used in the New Testament in connection with the faculties of utterance. Over fifty. And then he takes the most important ones and he lists them and it' s just. .. it' s just a piece of research work that you should really as a Corps master in your heart and in your life.

Ephesians 4:25 in the King James reads, Wherefore put away lyin g, speak every man truth with his neighbor: for we are members one of another.

The ' putting away' was interesting to me again because of the Greek word aniko, a-n-i-k-o.

And this word is ' the putting away,' this word ' put away,' aniko, is the same root word as in 4:22, where we use the word ' rest,' meaning ' to rest.' Is that right? Yep, that is right. I taught you that,

didn't I? Did I or didn't I? Doesn't look right to me. It is the same root. What chapter am I missing? Am I missing anything? I don't know. Right now I'm screwed up, ha ha. First time today. You check the word again and I'll do that, too and see what I'm missing here.

But a-n-i-k-o is the word for ' putting away from you. ' To put away. And it' s the same root as the word ' rest.' I don't know where the word appears, but it's got to be in there.

Now, that word ' speak,' every man speak. That word ' speak ' is from the Greek word

laleo, l-a-l-e-long-o. And that' s where Walter' s article on "The Spoken Word"_c omes in because that is.. .he uses that word laleo in here, which I teach in Corinthians when I teach the Foundational Class. And he says the word is employed 24 times in I Corinthians chapter 14. I had forgotten that.

This word is truly significant. I couldn' t quite understand it Research Department, what  you said on page 26B 16, where you defined it ' to make vocal utterance,' ' to babble,' 'to talk,'  'to  exercise the faculty of speech without reference to the words spoken.' I just wondered if there might not be another word that could be substituted or utilized at this point. I know that Zachariah 8:16 is the quotation that is used here, or spoken of. And that Zachariah 8:16 adds force to what is said by using a quote, a quotation. That' s why my question to the Research Department is, How can it be without reference to what is spoken if it is truth plus the quotation of the Word of God that's given. It doesn't quite fit for me.

'With his neighbor' has to be a believing neighbor. This 'speak truth with his neighbor' is a figure of speech gnome, g-n-o-m-e, which simply is a citation. And that' s a citation from Zachariah 8:16.

There are a series of figures of speech, Corps, in chapter four which just put the 00mph, the highlight, to the particular things that are set whereby you put off the old man. This phrase here 'speak every man truth with his neighbor'  is one of them. The other one appears in verse 26, 'be  angry and sin not.' ' Steal no more' is another one. 'Corrupt communication' is the fourth one.  'Grieve not the  holy spirit' is the fifth one. ' All bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, evil speaking' is  the sixth. And  then  ' be kind' and so forth, is the seventh.

You see, the last phrase in that verse, in King James, For we' re members one of what? [Another] And it' s relative to the neighbor. Now you just look at that. Wherefore put away  lying, speak  every  man truth with his what? [Neighbor] For we are members  one of  another.  That  doesn't  mean just  a neighbor who lives next door, but it has to be a believing neighbor because  we are members  one of what? [Another]. You could not be a member ' one of another' ifhe  was an  unbeliever.  That's how I know this is going to  work. This tells me that the neighbor  is  a  believer.  And  this  ' we' re members one of another' continues the imagery of the Body of Christ.

The literal  according  to  usage of this verse is as follows:   Wherefore  put away the  lie... and I believe in my heart, before I go on with the literal that until man is born again, it's all a lie anyways. And that' s why I believe that this translation will fit in the light of that knowledge. Because when  a man is not born again, his whole  life is just a  lie. Now you're  born again,  and that ' s  why  I think the text states it ' wherefore put away the lie,' the life you' ve been living , the screwed up life you have lived outside of God. It' s been just a life of a lie. It' s not truth. It' s just the opposite of truth and that's my reason for translating it this way... Wherefore put away the lie.

You've got to go with that translation. You have no other text to go by both from Aramaic and Greek it's 'lie.' Not 'lying.' If the Research Department has anything to share in the light of that, I'd be blessed to hear, but you' ve heard my reasons for translating it, Research Department, this way.

Now since they're born again, their whole life is changed, so the life of lying, and living a lie, and being a lie, and being false, is to be put away.

And every man... this is the translation ... and everyone, everyone. The word ' man' you could use because it's an inclusive noun, but I prefer to use the word ' one.'

Wherefore put away the lie and everyone speak the truth with his neighbor for we are members one of another. That is literal according to usage.

Now for the expanded according to understanding. It's not bad. Because of this... What we coughing for? Everybody sick?...Because of this... and the reason I went in the expanded along this line is because verse 24 last week told us that we are created by God in righteousness and in true purity, through holiness. Twenty four.

That's why 25, Wherefore ... 'wherefore' can be translated 'because of this.' Because of this what? Being created in righteousness and truly pure. See it's an inside job.

Because of this being created in righteousness and truly pure by the grace and the love of

God.. .Because of this being created in righteousness and truly pure, you put away, completely lay to rest the lie that you have been and were living and each one of you speak the truth using a quotation from the Word with his believing neighbor for we are members one of another in the Body of the Church.

Robinson {Edward} said, he translated, 'speak every man truth with his neighbor' and he said it's from Zachariah 8:16 which adds force to what is said by using a quote. That's why I translated that. I think that' s great. It adds force to what is said. If you're speaking to someone, it adds force to what you say by using a quote, a quotation from God's Word. In other words, ' you share the Word with them.' That' s why I went with that translation. I want to give it to you again in this sense.

Speak the truth using a quotation from the Word, which means 'share the Word.' Quote the Word to them. Tell them what the Word says, with his believing neighbor. Why? For we are members one of another in the Body of the Church. This verse is just mind blowing.

Here, you have a born-again believer neighbor who needs to grow up a little more. So what do you do? Each one speak the truth to that neighbor, that believer, using the Word, quoting the Word because we' re members one of another in the Body of the Church. It's a real positive thing to do.

Verse 26 in King James reads, Be angry.. .ha ha... we like that one, don't we. Be ye angry and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath.

Here is a verse of Scripture that' s very, very difficult for most people. And it' s not too easy for us either. But I think we are able to share the truth of the greatness of this and it's been burning in my heart for a long time to do this with our people.

Everybody has problems with ' how can you be angry and not sin?' You know, how can raise hell with something and not be sinful in doing it? Teed off and not be sinful. And how can you go... and what does it mean 'don't let the sun go down upon your wrath?' See.

In the context, here, verses 26 and 27 deal with your believing neighbor, specifically. Then the Greek word for ' anger' which is from the root orge, o-r-g-long-e means 'anger together with the desire of revenge .' That' s bad. That' s a heavy. The Hebrew word means ' to kill, and all the tumults of passion that terminate in killing.' So it's a real heavy word when it said ' be angry.'

And the way I believe it's used in God' s Word, ' be ye angry' means ' it's a long time anger with your believing neighbor until a change has ensued.' The desire to... of revenge is a change. And I, knowing the Word in the light of the new birth, it's where a change finally comes about. Until that time, you just, long-term, you just stay put witnessing the Word, sharing the Word. You do not dislike the believing neighbor; you simply dislike that he is not fully accepting the Word and walking on it. So it' s a long-term anger until a change has ensued. You just stay faithful.

I don't know what else to do with those words. It is a righteous anger. Yet it is a righteous anger without sin.

Among the scholars, there is a disagreement on these words. Well, I don't know about my being a scholar; that I don' t anything about being about. But it's simple to me because righteous anger is commanded by God's Word when it says ' be ye angry.' Well, the scholars can fight about it. I don' t care. It' s a command. Not just permitted to get teed once in a while when somebody' s off of God' s Word, a believer is off of God's Word. You' re always teed off righteously at any believer, born-again believer, who is off of God' s Word. And for those of us in the Way Ministry, it' s been a lifetime.

Get into it with them on... Oh what subject do you want to talk about? Baptism? Food? One God? See. All that stuff.

The Aramaic is accurate in the words ' and sin not.' It literally translates ' and you will not sin.' Again, this ' be angry and sin not' is that figure gnome. Quotation. A citation from the Old Testament. It' s from Psalm 4:4. But in King James, Psalm 4:4, it's translated 'stand in awe.' The real sense of the Hebrew is ' one of admonition;' sin not. Where we' re admonished to not sin. Sin not.

' Let not the sun go down on your wrath. ' Ha ha. That again is beautiful. People went to bed when the sun went down, when it got dark. That's when they went to bed. So what that simply is saying, ha ha, ' don't go to bed teed off.' Don' t let the sun go down on your wrath. In other words, go to bed; don' t go to bed mad. ' When you go to bed' is what it means. Let not the sun go down when you go to bed. And they went to bed when the sun went down. When it got dark, they went to bed, see.

' Upon your wrath.' And the word ' wrath' here is basically ' irritation.' Ha ha. Previously when I taught Ephesians, I made mention of this fact, ' don' t let righteous anger shake you, wondering if it was right on. When you go to bed, go to sleep.'

Now, this is what we have done with it in the literal, ha ha, according to usage. I got more papers up here than Carter has liver pills, or something. Then, I can' t find my... whatever it is I take off of it.

Okay, verse 26. You be righteously angry.. .this is literal according to usage.. .and you will not be sinning. Don't go to bed even with a momentary irritation, ha ha.

I don't think you get nearly as much fun out of this as I do. It's neat. It's absolutely scrumptious, see. At the opening, is that heavy word, remember? Anger. So it's a real heavy time. So what he is saying, in the heavy time, when your standing on God' s Word  and sharing that with the  believing  neighbor, you' re righteously angry... you're not sinning. And  you don't  even go to  bed with a momentary irritation. In other Words, when you go to bed, thank God the day is over. Say your last prayer and start snoring.

Boy, that would save a lot of sleeping pills, wouldn' t it? Practicing that principle. Boy, oh boy, what a tremendous Word. And hardly anybody understands verse 26. They argue about it, but they don' t get the understanding.

Now this is the expanded one according to understanding, I hope. And again, I would like to just lay some things before the Corps, and especially before the Research Department. I translated the first part of verse 26, You always stay angry with an all-out desire to have them to change which anger will not be sin on your part.

Then I have another translation of that first part of it: You be righteously angry, 'teed off' with sin... 'Teed off' I put in quotes. But don't  you sin  by acting  ' holier than thou'  vaunting  yourself  by acting so righteously like you never sin.

I do not know which one of those two the Research Department feels would be the better. The last part of the phrase that I translated which would go with both of these that I have given you here on the expanded one for understanding. This, the last part, goes with that first one and with the second ... also.. .even if it is only a momentary irritation.  When you go to  bed, go to sleep. That's what I did with it.

Now, verse 27. King James says, Neither (or neither) give place to the Devil. The word 'place' is simply a portion, a part. No believer will give full place to the Devil, but he may be giving a part, a portion. He' ll mark off a spot, ' this is Devil' s permission over here, over here, no permission, you know. And you really give the Devil a portion or a spot if you stew about it after you go to bed and you toss and you tum and can' t sleep.

This word 'the Devil,' ' the Devil' in the Aramaic is a very interesting and exciting Word to me and it blesses my heart. It' s a compound word where the first part means ' to eat' or ' to devour.' The latter

' to slander' or ' to accuse. '  So when I got to translating  this, literally according  to usage, verse 27 reads: Do not give any portion or space or an opportunity to the Devil. So I used those three words synonymously: portion, space, opportunity. Do not give any portion or space or an opportunity to the Devil.

The expanded according to understanding: And you will not give a toehold, an opportunity or an occasion for the Devil to eat you. Ha ha. I get more fun than you ever will out of working this stuff, huh.

You see, and to me, that communicates to my understanding. John 10:10. The thief cometh not but for to what? [Steal, kill, and destroy] Right. To eat you out. To beat you. And that's why that Aramaic word, on the word ' Devil' really thrilled me.

And that ' s why I put it into the expanded translation: And you will not give a ' toehold.' Now, at L.E.A.D., you know how important it is to get a what? [Toehold] Ha ha. And when you' re really climbing in, you' re blessed for a toehold. How thankful you are when you get a foothold. Now the adversary can never get a foothold in a believer' s life until he first has a toehold. That's why I translated it that way.

Do not give... and you will not give a toehold ... shave all the rocks off... an opportunity or an occasion for the Devil to eat you. And that' s exactly what he likes to do to believers.

Now we go to verse 28. King James says, Let him that stole steal not more: but rather let him labor, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. And here again, is another great work that I believe should be in our research journal GMIR, Walter' s work on " Workers for God."

It' s just tremendous where he... you know... he just goes into God' s men are called many things in the Word. They' re called: fellow workers, ministers, or servants, slaves, fellow slaves, partners, messengers, soldiers, fellow soldiers, athletes, fellow athletes, stewards, ambassadors, witnesses, all of those. And he covers them so beautifully. And I love very much how he covered the word ' slave,' because it' s a much stronger word than to be a minister, or to be a servant. It is to be one who is branded, marked out, sold out. And baby, from that day on, there are no ifs, and' s, or but' s. You never budge on it. You are branded. Most believers are never branded. They may be servants, they may be ministers, but they are not branded. When you' re branded, you stay faithful. You do not budge. You do not change. You stay put. If all hell breaks loose, you still live the believing Word.

I think the prophet once said, If I was in the midst of hell, God I know you' d be there. (Psalm 139:8) He' d be there. That' s the doulos. That, of course, is just a tremendous piece of work.

And the other great part that I think... and this is a second piece that I want the Corps to master before next Wednesday night, " Workers for God," the work on ' witness.' You see, it's the same word basically that's translated ' martyr,' see. And we got a lot of those canonized. That's not at all what a witness is. A witness is a living example, not a dead one. The word 'martyr' simply means that you lay down your life in witnessing. And boy, when you put the doulos together with ' witness,' then you' ve got power for abundant living. It's just a fantastic work by Walter and I' m real grateful that it was published. Because once it' s in print, people can take a look at it if they want to.

I'd like a cup of coffee, please.

Now, we are in verse 28. The Aramaic translation is ' and he who was stealing.' I understand it from the English, ' let him that stole,' past tense. The Aramaic is real simple, real strong. ' And he, the one who is born again, who was, past tense, stealing.'

Thank you.

His whole life was one of those before he was born again.

Whenever you bring a cup of coffee to a right-hand man, you put the handle to the right. When you serve a cup of coffee to a left-hand man, you put it on the left-hand side and put the handle to the left. Corps principle number seven or something, ha ha. Mrs. Wierwille would say, Well, be thankful you even get a cup of coffee. [Laughter] Ah, you're wonderful.

See, ' let him who stole, steal no more.' 'Stole and steal,' that' s a figure of speech and is polyptoton p-o-l-y-p-t-o-t-o-n. It' s a repetition of the same root word in different parts of speech or reflections. But, that's not earth shaking right now in my heart.

You see, in some Eastern culture, it was not considered a sin or a shame to steal because that's the way they lived, the only way they lived. Somebody told me... or not only told me, one of our people, but it was in a national magazine, that the basic culture of Russia today is to steal. And in some respects I can understand this. If you don't have anything and you're starving to death and there' s a loaf of bread you can get a hold of... steal the dam thing. I understand that.

So this verse is really sharp, really sharp. Let him who stole, even though that man previously considered it the way to live and there was no shame in it, no sin in it. He said, Well, let that fellow who stole, steal no more. Something has happened on the inside of that man. Something that happened, where He is able to meet all of our need according to His riches in glory. Christ in you, the hope of glory. More than conquerors.

A record in the Old Testament, I forget where it is, but it's in there, that it' s never, you never need to borrow or steal bread or... what is that in the Old Testament? Begging bread. One person stand and tell me. {Psalm 37:25, I have been young and now am old; yet have I seen the righteous forsaken, nor His seed begging bread.} Psalm 27:25 who? {Psalm 37:25} 37:25. All the years, he's never seen the righteous to have to do what? {Beg bread} Beg bread.

First of all, I wish the Christian world could hear this. Secondly, I wish our government in the United States could understand it. The Word says, If you don't work, you don' t eat. A lot of that stuff. Well, what we've been doing is stealing from the people who are willing to work to give to the people who don' t want to work. That's a bunch of crap. That's stealing. That's why this verse is so hot in my soul tonight. Let him who stole, quit stealing, dang it. See.

Many years ago I was really knocked for a loop along some of this line in India, from Dr. Williams. I think he loved India maybe like I love the United States, I don' t know. Because only a man knows how much he loves his own country, I guess.

But... as we were traveling together, he said to me, Dr. Wierwille, I hear you have whores in the United States.

You know, I never had given it a thought. I just took it for granted. [Laughter] And I said, yeah. He said, Why does a rich country like the United States have whores?

And I said, I don't know.

And he said, I can't understand it. Cannot your women make enough money to live? Yeah, but they figure that' s cheaper and more pleasurable or something, I don' t know. And he said, Well, I think it's sinful that the United States has whores.

And I said, What do you mean?

And he said to me, why, I can understand India. He said we don' t enough food, we don' t have enough of anything hardly for a lot of people. And we have whores because that' s the only way they can continue to live physically.

And I thought to myself, well boy, that' s slapping me in the face good. And I took it as a wonderful lesson. There is no excuse in the United States for any women being a whore because she doesn' t need to get screwed and paid for it in order to get money so she can live. There's plenty of work available and if there isn' t she ought to get born again, then there' s a guarantee of work. ..other work, available. I tell you, when you' re honest, some of these men in other countries have some real logic behind their thinking. How would you have liked to have handled that? I just simply admitted, Well, I think we' re wrong in the United States. But I said, I think you' re wrong in India, too, because no reason to have whores here if you get them born again.

So I don' t know. But this verse today as I worked the final working on this verse 28 is when my heart really went back and burned with that truth that Dr. Williams had stated. Because in many Eastern cultures, it was not considered as sin or as shame to steal, if it was a matter of livelihood. You sometimes wonder who will live in the greatest condemnation before God and justice and judgment when the time comes.

For in most of what are called poor countries even, there is sufficient money, food, and other things for the people to live if those in positions of authority were not so selfish and egotistical, and want it for themselves , and let the rest of the world die... or a country die.

The word ' labor' in verse 28 is the word which literally means ' hard work resulting in fatigue.' That's how I felt coming from the woods last night. And I didn' t do anything. It was just hard work being there with the rest of you. Today I got so tired of being with some, I came home. Ah, you' re wonderful.

' Working with his hands' is an Eastern cultural type of thing. Today in our culture, you could have it, you know, the truth is working with your mind or working with your hand, whatever you' re working at. But in Eastern culture, every son was to be trained to work with his hands, even if he was the son of a king. Had to learn a trade, a profession of business.

Jesus Christ was a saddle maker. He made them to ride, I guess, what do you want? Tennessee Walkers , or? See. I think not only did he do that, Paul did it, too, you know. Someday I'm going to find a...or Walter, or some of those, are going to find me a manuscript to prove it. .. and a wonderful carpenter by trade. Many times doing carpentry work and being a saddle maker were sort of in the same household, because building carpentry and having saddles to use for their business and carrying on, were very, very closely aligned. Well, I won' t argue the point, but I wish we' d keep looking.

II Thessalonians.. .Do your hands ever get so dry you can hardly hold anything? Golly, mine are so dry tonight, I wonder why? II Thessalonians, chapter 3:10... this we commanded you that if any would not work, neither should he what? [Eat] Right. Even unemployment is no excuse for stealing. He just doesn' t eat. Goes and gets work. Boy, when I first saw the greatness of these principles many years ago, and then of course, I uniquely by God' s grace, inculcated that into our W.O.W. program and very dynamically in the Corps leadership.

ROMANS 8:5-11
September 18, 1979
We’re into that section of God’s Word in Romans 8. I read this section at least sixty times
in the last twenty-four hours today. My heart is simply enraptured, it’s thrilled, it’s
dynamically excited with it. It’s almost totally contrary to everything the world believes. I
should say not almost totally, but totally contrary to what the world believes, to what you
were taught in the senses world. Being in this section of Romans is just one of the greatest
things I could ever share with people. In the last session I took The Corps through Verse 4.
Tonight we begin with Verse 5.
One of the things I want you to note is the uniqueness of the prepositions, like “for,”
“because,” “but,” “therefore,” as they appear in the immediate verses following Verse 4.
Romans 8:4
“flesh” – figure of speech, synecdoche, where a part is put for the whole. The difference
between the figure metonymy and synecdoche is that in metonymy you deal with nouns.
In synecdoche you deal with ideas, different associated ideas where ideas are a part or put
for the whole. Like the Word of God talks about Jesus Christ shedding his blood for the
remission of sins. It’s synecdoche. It’s an idea where the blood represents a lot more than
just the word “blood.” It’s the idea behind it. The word “flesh,” as it appears here in
Romans is that figure all the way through.
Romans 8:5
“for”
“but”
Romans 8:6
“for”
“but”
Romans 8:7
“because”
“for”
Romans 8:8
“so then” = but, de
Romans 8:9
“but”
“but”
“now” – but
Romans 8:10
“But” if Christ be in you.
“because”
“but”
“because”
Four tremendous words in that verse.
Romans 8:11
“but”
Romans 8:12
“therefore”
Romans 8:13
“for”
“but”
Romans 8:14
“for”
Romans 8:15
“for”
“but”
That in itself, those prepositions, just shake you up.
The Greek word for “for” is gar. This is put together from two Greek words, ge, meaning
verily and ara, meaning further. Literally the truth is.
Romans 8:5
Could read, “The truth is,” they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh. The
truth is, and the preposition “for” gives the reason why, the cause, the motive involved,
because of. The principles indicated are a statement or declaration of that which is truth.
That’s the greatness of that wonderful preposition.
In Verse 5 you have the word “for” and the word “but.”
“but” – de in Greek, which sets in contrast that which precedes with that which follows.
Many times in opposition of or with. There’s only one stronger word that’s translated “but”
and it’s in this section in Romans, and that is the word alla. That’s the most emphatic “but”
that’s possible to have in the language.
Perhaps if I gave you these prepositions logically and systematically then when I get to
putting than all together for you in these verses 5-15, you’ll be able to work it later so that
you fully understand it.
Gar or “for” is a statement or declaration of what is truth.
De is “but.”
“Because” (Verse 7) is the Greek word dioti, meaning on this account, wherefore, because
of this reason. The fine lines of demarcation of the usage of prepositions is what makes it
possible so many times to understand the in-depth spiritual perception and awareness of
that Word.
In Verse 12 you get to the preposition “therefore,” which is the word araoun, which means
still further, logically beyond, naturally proceeding. It’s proceeding naturally from the
preceding. It’s naturally following from the preceding. It proceeds and moves on naturally
from that which is given as truth preceding. It “is therefore naturally.
The word ara of which the word “therefore” is made and oun literally means harmony. Ara
means harmony. Oun is logical.
Verse 12 – “Logically, harmonious brethren,” or “harmoniously logical.” This is so
fantastic because this word basically implies the same truth as the word synchronize in
English. If two of you agree regarding prayer, synchronize, it’s a fantastic usage of a word.
In a symphony, all the instruments have to be properly tuned and every note has to be
synchromeshed with every instrument, all fit together. That’s why it’s the word
synchronize, harmonize. Whenever something synchronizes, it’s pleasant to the ears. It’s
enjoyable to the sight in the senses realm. That is the greatness of this word araoun
translated “therefore,” meaning still further, logically beyond, naturally following from the
preceding. It is therefore.
In Verse 5, “for,” the first word, is the word gar. The word “but” is the word de.
In Verse 6, “for” is gar; “but” is de.
In Verse 7, “because” is dioti; “for” is gar; “indeed” is gar.
In Verse 8, “so then” is de.
In Verse 9, “but” is de. The second “but” is alla, and that’s the strongest usage of the
contrast.
“Now” is the word de.
In Verse 10, “and” is the word de; “because” is di or dia, meaning on account of; “but” is
de; “because” is dia.
I think authorized version the Greek text behind it uses for the first “because” the word di
if I remember correctly, but the last one is dia. Tregelles” and others use dia for both, and
I believe dia should be the first “because” as well as the last one in Verse 10.
In verse 11, the first word is de. “By” is dia. It should be translated on account of.
In Verse 12, “therefore” is araoun.
In Verse 13, “for” is gar; “but” is de.
In Verse 14, “for” is gar.
In Verse 15, “for” is gar; “but” is alla, strongest, most emphatic word for “but” you can
have.
I don’t know what that does to your heart, but I know what it does to mine. Those
prepositions sit like diamonds and they just hit you in the head like that, one right after the
other.
In Verse 16 they are totally discontinued for a little bit and it goes into some other type of
truth, which sort of summarizes and continues to build the greatness of this fantastic
section of the Book of Romans. No man living who loves God and who loves the Word
and who has even a small knowledge of the usage of words could not stand but in utter
amazement of the greatness of the revelation that appears in these tremendous verses of
scripture from Romans 8.
In here we have the truth of God’s Word regarding born again believers, sons of God. At
my present knowledge and understanding of people’s lives among the believers, I doubt if
over two percent ever believe the truth of God’s Word and really live it. Perhaps that’s one
of the reasons the impending captivity is on the scene.
Romans 8:5
“do mind” – Literally obey, because you cannot obey anything except what you’ve been
taught or what you believe. If you get your information via the five senses, and that’s the
word “flesh,” the figure synecdoche where a part stands for the whole associated idea. If
you’re born again of God’s spirit you are body, soul and spirit. Has it affected your mind?
Therefore, you are still controlling your life by your mind. Being body and soul could you
continue to go by the information you gathered by way of the five senses? Definitely.
That’s the flesh. Or after you’re born again, you by your mind can believe God’s Word and
renew your mind. That’s why this section is continuing on the renewed mind. Then you
could go by the spirit. That’s exactly what that verse says. After you’re born again, they
that are after the flesh who continue to live by the information they gather by way of their
five senses, they’re going to mind, they’re going to obey, they’re going to carry out the
things of the what? You can’t go beyond that people. Understand? You can’t believe any
bigger than what you’re taught, and all teaching comes to the human mind by way of one
of the five senses; seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting or touching, or by direct revelation,
which would be by spirit. If it came to the human mind by the spirit, it would be of one or
the other categories, either the true God or the Adversary. Both sources of spiritual
information are in extent. They that are after the flesh who get their information via the
five senses, even if they are born again, they’re going to mind, be obedient to, the things of
the flesh.
“do mind” – phroneō, which means do mind; literally set your heart’s desire on: to set your
heart’s desires on the things of the flesh. I think the heart’s desires is the best I know, if
you understand the word heart in the essence of what I understand it to mean; if you
confess with your mouth the lord Jesus and believe in thine heart. That’s what I mean
about it, with every ounce of your being. Your whole life is geared toward this. If you’re
after the flesh you do mind the things of the flesh, you care for, your heart’s desire for it.
I’ve got to have this, I’ve got to have that. That’s what this word is talking about.
“but” – in contrast
“after” – like according to
“But they that are after the Spirit” – There’s a figure of omission here. “Do mind” should
be inserted here. They that are after the Spirit do mind the things of the Spirit. You’re
going to walk in one or the other category or a combination. Mast of us walk a
combination. To the end that you mind the things of the flesh, you’re still walking, after
you’re born again, by the flesh. To the end you mind the things of the Spirit, you’re
walking according to the Spirit. So there’s two ways to walk after you’re born again; by
the flesh or by Spirit. That’s what that verse says.
And both the mind of the flesh as well as the mind of the Spirit are controlled by the free
will of the man. You make up your mind by the freedom of your will. You are in control of
which way you walk. To walk by the Spirit is to walk by the revealed Word of God
rightly-divided, the Word, or to walk by revelation. First of all, the Bible, the Word of
God, is revelation; therefore the revelation, as the manifestation of Spirit, is beyond or in
addition to what the revelation of the Word gives, and it’s only regarding a specific
incident.
So when you walk by the Word of God, you’re walking via the Spirit. If you’re walking by
that revelation regarding a specific incident, then you’re still walking by the Spirit. That’s
why you need the manifestation of word of knowledge and word of wisdom.
Romans 8:6
To be carnally minded is to be flesh minded, senses minded, to continue to carry in your
mind after you’re born again the information which is gathered via the five senses. And if
you continue that way after you’re born again, to be carnally minded is death. But, in
contrast, if you by the freedom of your will after you’re born again, desire to be spiritually
minded, that is life and peace.
“is” – italics – Here again you have the figure of omission. The word “is” is properly
supplied if you understand it as “the result is.” To be carnally minded is death, but to be
spiritually minded, the result is life and peace. Literally meaning a peaceful life. Life and
peace is a peaceful life. To be spiritually minded, the result is a peaceful way. That’s the
text. Boy, oh boy, what a fantastic Word of God.
Romans 8:7
“because” – On this account, wherefore, because of this reason, contrasting that which
precedes and in some respects that’s not as strong. Forget that. Just simply go with
“because,” understanding it because of these reasons, the, carnal mind, on this account the
carnal mind is, the result is (omission). Peaceful mind in Verse 6. Verse 7 carnal mind
enmity against God.
“Enmity” means to be at loggerheads and how we have tried with our carnal minds through
the years to make ourselves acceptable. And the Word of God says the carnal mind, the
mind of the senses, the mind that gets its information by seeing, hearing, tasting, touching,
what the senses world produces without God and His Word. That’s enmity against God. So
why in the hell don’t you believe it? Hardly any man believes this because you succumb to
names, degrees, social positions, rather than the truth of God’s Word. I don’t care who
would be seated in this auditorium, tonight. I’ve come to the place that in my life the Word
of God is the will of God, and man has no influence regarding my life as contained in my
teaching. I’d teach the same thing if the governor of the state was here tonight. If the
President of The United States was here tonight, I’d still teach the same thing. No sense
knowledge men, no position, no man in authority senses world carries any weight in
comparison to the greatness of God’s Word, because everything he stands, for unless he
renews his mind and lives God’s Word, is enmity against God. That’s what the Word says.
And that is where I stand, because that’s where the Word stands. And if it’s wrong, I’ll go
down with the ship. That’s right.
The carnal mind, therefore the most brilliant mind, the Bible says, is against God. That is
why usually what you’ll see in the most highly intellectual circles, is the rejection of the
true God (agnostics, atheists, etc.). It is enmity against God. That’s why I’m not impressed
with people. I’m impressed with the truth of God’s Word. People who live that Word
impress me. Sorry Corps, it’s a tough night, but it’s the Word.
Here in Romans, this sits like a diamond, and it’s so simple. I was thinking today, one
verse of scripture settled for me today, the gold situation. The Word says that the love of
money is the root of all evil. You keep looking wherever you want, but I’ve got one verse
of scripture that settles the whole thing. So if you want to be in confusion, enmity against
God, with the shortness of your stupidity, go ahead, it’s your privilege. I just believe the
simplicity of the Word and have a peaceful life. The love of money is the root of all evil.
So wherever you see evil, just take a look. I already know the answer. It’s always there, it
never fails. Money, again, is a figure of speech where a part stands for the whole, what it
can buy.
The carnal mind is enmity against God. The reason I can teach this so well is because I’ve
been at all these locations. I used to just shiver and shake and get nervous when I had to
appear before a professor with a Ph.D. and I was just a little peon who made it through
high school with B’s and C’s, flunked algebra twice. Well, I changed my mind. You ought
to change yours, according to the Word.
The carnal mind, no matter how sharp it looks to you, we call them think tanks, they are
think tanks in God’s sight. Every time the carnal mind moves, it is always destructive. It
will use everything it develops to ultimately destroy the very thing they tell you they’re
trying to establish. And that’s enmity against God. Amen. That’s what the Word says. If
you don’t believe it that’s okay with me. But there’s a day coming when you’ll stand
before God too. If I were you, I’d make up my mind, because that day we appear before
God, rewards are handed out. So if you just don’t want to sit in the kitchen, but want to get
around to the living room, I would lay up a few.
Why? Verse 7 says, “for it is not subject,” literally “not in subjection to.” It puts itself
above what? Sounds like Genesis, doesn’t it? Nothing Corps, there’s nothing acceptable to
God in the flesh, be it body, or the mind. Nothing acceptable to God in the flesh. It’s all
enmity. Why? Because the flesh is dominated by the law of sin and death. It is a law. The
spirit of life which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
“neither” – absolutely cannot be, because it does not get its information from the truth of
God’s Word. It gets its information via the five senses. And who controls and owns the
kingdom of this world? The Adversary. It cannot be subject to God because it doesn’t get
its information from God.
Romans 8:8
“So then” – but; I can understand the translation “so then.” Neither indeed can be, so then
they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
So, ladies and gentlemen, it is not how you count your beads, whether you face east, west,
north or south when you pray, not whether you bring your offering in a beautiful silver tray
of horn of plenty. Has nothing to do with loving and serving God, because nothing in the
flesh pleased God. It isn’t that God doesn’t enjoy our being here tonight nicely dressed, all
that stuff, etc. But if none of this was here, if I had to sit here tonight in clothing that would
not be “casually elegant,” it would still be the truth of the Word. Nothing in the flesh will
please God. That strikes all of us right between the eyes. How many, many, many times we
have thought we could please God by something we did in the flesh. Go to Sunday school,
go to church, go to prayer meeting, go to the hospital, give my money, etc.. Nothing in the
flesh can ever please God – so quit trying. That’s right. There’s nothing wrong with the
flesh, except it’s got to live under a greater law. Whenever people think they got to be
water baptized, water is flesh category. One group teaches once is enough; another group
teaches you have to be immersed three times. And they fight among each other. All fights
among so-called born again believers are always over works, senses category. I’ve never
seen it fail. It’s really something.
Again, the reason I know all of this so well is because I worked so hard to be good. It
sends chills up and down my spine when I think about it. (Example of baptism, etc.) If
someone had only taught me what I’m teaching the Corps tonight, it would have saved me
fifteen years of condemnation, frustration, fear, feeling like a damn fool, unworthy of
everything. If they had only taught me that they that are in the flesh cannot please God. I
tried so hard. The harder I tried, the further I slipped down the ladder. I’d work so hard to
be good, and then I was lousy, blew it. Maybe there’s a psychological law, law of reversed
efforts. Boy people, when are we going to believe the Word.
I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with the flesh, but I’m simply saying that if you are
in the flesh, or living by the information of the senses, you cannot please God. There’s
only one way to please God, and that is by believing His Word.
What you’ve got in your heart, who do you worship, where do you stand – that’s what he’s
talking about. Where’s the heart of a man or a woman. God doesn’t look on the outside of
a man or woman. He looks on the heart, the motive, the desire.
They that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Romans 8:9
But you who are not in the flesh, but (alla) in the Spirit. Alla, the most emphatic, most
profound, hardest usage of “but,” in contrast. When you’re born again of God’s spirit and
you renew your mind, put on the mind of Christ, then you don’t go by the information of
the senses, you don’t endeavor to please God with the carnal mind, BUT. That’s emphatic.
“but in the Spirit” – no article “the.” But in Spirit, or via, by way of the Spirit.
To the end we renew our minds after we’re born again with Christ in us, the hope of glory,
with the Spirit of God indwelling us, to that end we manifest the greatness of the love of
God in the renewed mind. You are not in the flesh, but, alla, in Spirit, if so be that Spirit of
God dwelleth, or indwelleth, you.
“now” = but
“But if any man have not Spirit of Christ in, he is not his” – that is the text.
He is not his. He is not God’s, because he does not have the spirit of God. Sense
knowledge wise, could he be a great man? Sharp as a meatball, right? Tremendously
impressive, socially acceptable, etc.. The Word of God says he is none of His. Does this
mean I hate that person? Does that mean I raise hell with him? No. I witness to him. And
if they will to believe, they may.. If they don’t, they just have to go the way of all flesh.
Every man or woman has the right by the freedom of their will to make up their minds as
to which way they will go.
(Dr. Wierwille reads poem)
My Bible says, that if any man, (“any one” is the text) have not the Spirit of Christ, he is
not his. There’s only one way by which man must be saved, at the name of Jesus Christ.
They may be wonderful people, great people, but they are none of. His. May be good
people, morally wonderful, but they still are none of His.
There’s a lot more to this life than just this life. There is eternal life.
Romans 8:10
“and” = but
But if Christ be in you, the body indeed (is) dead, (dia), on account of sin. That’s why
every man will die physically, unless the Lord returns and interrupts the procedure.
But, in contrast, the Spirit life, the Spirit indeed life. Body indeed death. Spirit in you
indeed life. Why? Because on account of His righteousness, which is God’s righteousness
in Christ in you. God was in Christ and when you are born again, it is in you.
Perhaps I should have given you a literal according to the word of verse 6.
Romans 8:6
For the mind of the flesh is death. The mind of the Spirit is life with peace, or peaceful life.
Romans 8:10
Although the body is dead, because of sin, the spirit (the new birth in you) is life because
of His righteousness.
Romans 8:11
“from the dead” = out from among the dead
“dwell in you” = indwell in you
The manifestation in the senses realm of the indwelling of the spirit is by your mind,
controlling your life. Sin indwells, Romans 7 said that.
Romans 7:7
Sin indwelleth in the natural man of body and soul. When you’re born again, spirit
indwelleth. Then, by your controlling your mind according to the revelation of the Word,
you determine which one rules in your life, whether the old man of sin rules, or the new
man of Christ in you, which is the spirit, rules.
Romans 8:11
“he that raised up Christ” – some texts read “Jesus Christ”
“from the dead” = out from among the dead
“quicken” – to make alive; make his home with, in-residence
Raised up Jesus Christ from the dead, shall make his home. He’s going to make his home
in your mortal body. When you’re born again with Christ in you, he makes himself at
home, he indwelleth you. It’s Christ in you.
When you confess with your mouth, he came in, Christ in you, – and he quickened, makes
alive, your mortal body. Very few people believe that. He doesn’t do it automatically. It
comes into manifestation when you, by your mind, control it and believe it.
The greatest healing I know is the new birth. I know a lot of people born again of God’s
spirit who are sicker than dogs. Can’t be God. The Bible says He quickens, makes alive,
because he’s at home within you, your mortal body. That will include your eyesight, your
whole body. He will electrify you within, spiritually.
Fantastic, but it does not occur until people believe, because the mind of believing controls
the potential and the greatness of the outreach of the spirit within, because it’s exousia,
energēmata, exercising the energy of the Christ within you, and that quickens your mortal
body. How God heals you.
You know something? The great accuracy of what I believe the Word teaches, whenever a
man is born again, he should be totally delivered physically. The potential is latent. It’s
Christ in you the hope of glory. He quickens. Old things are what? All things become new.
Nobody has ever taught us, so we have no believing for it. If the church ever begins to see
what this Word really says, the days of Acts will be repeated all over again. Peter’s
shadow, people got healed. And there is no healing in just a shadow. The healing is in
believing because it is Christ in you, the hope of glory. They knew that Christ was in Peter.
He manifested it. And when he walked by, they believed that just the presence of that man
of God, his shadow, they believed they would be healed. Be it unto you according to your
believing
Quicken your what? Quicken your mortal body also.
(Read Bullinger’s work on “Also.” Mark every place in your Bible where “also” appears.)
In the Greek text, it is very easy because you can see it very plainly. In the Greek text the
word “also” is immediately before the word that is to be emphasized. In English usage and
other translations, it is either before or after the word. In The Way Ministry, we always in
our research teaching and writing, put the word “also” after the word it emphasizes in our
English. In the Greek, it immediately precedes the word emphasized. But in translation, we
put it immediately afterwards because we’re English, not Greek.
Here it reads, “quicken your mortal bodies also.” It’s not just Christ indwelling in you. It’s
not only spiritual, but it’s physical. Don’t you see it? The spirit of Christ in you, when you
believe, does something inside your body that makes you the greatest man physically, that
you’ve ever been, the greatest woman you’ve ever been. It makes, what I call, a man a
man; and a woman a woman. And I call it men of God and women of God. That’s what it
makes you. The most beautiful woman the world has ever seen, the most handsome man
the world has ever seen, for it is Christ in you.
That’s Romans. That’s the Word of God. And He does this in your mortal bodies also. Not
just spiritually, but in your mortal bodies by His spirit that indwelleth you.